Yo! Canadian Arbs step the f-up to the plate and represent.

Reg Coates had a YouTube video where he talked about two books - The Man Who Planted Trees by Jim Robbins and Big Lonely Doug by Harley Rustad. The latter is about a large Doug Fir which loggers left uncut but it also chronicles the abuse of the Province of British Columbia's old growth forests by extensive clear cut and successive Provincial BC governments with it's head up somebody’s corporate ar$e, to the point where there's only ~ 1% of BC's old growth left (if). And yet the cutting and ecosystem abuse continues to this day, sanctioned by the same government that refuses to do anything about money laundering, rampant drug importation and a host of other ills in BC. Comfy when you're in somebody's back pocket and get the brown envelope every now and then I guess. I give as much hope for BC to save it's remaining old growth forests as I did for the Province of Quebec to finally stop asbestos production and overseas sales, long, long after other countries had done so because the toxicology on the stuff was crystal clear. And so it goes. Sad. The book is a good read - can get it on iBooks.

P.S. You can support the efforts to save the BC old growth by writing the MLA's in BC - they have website pages and by donating either our highly devalued Cana-Bucks or real US $$ to the protesters, buying their posters etc - info is in the book.
 
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Reg Coates had a YouTube video where he talked about two books - The Man Who Planted Trees by Jim Robbins and Big Lonely Doug by Harley Rustad. The latter is about a large Doug Fir which loggers left uncut but it also chronicles the abuse of the Province of British Columbia's old growth forests by extensive clear cut and successive Provincial BC governments with it's head up somebody’s corporate ar$e, to the point where there's only ~ 1% of BC's old growth left (if). And yet the cutting and ecosystem abuse continues to this day, sanctioned by the same government that refuses to do anything about money laundering, rampant drug importation and a host of other ills in BC. Comfy when you're in somebody's back pocket and get the brown envelope every now and then I guess. I give as much hope for BC to save it's remaining old growth forests as I did for the Province of Quebec to finally stop asbestos production and overseas sales, long, long after other countries had done so because the toxicology on the stuff was crystal clear. And so it goes. Sad. The book is a good read - can get it on iBooks.

P.S. You can support the efforts to save the BC old growth by writing the MLA's in BC - they have website pages and by donating either our highly devalued Cana-Bucks or real US $$ to the protesters, buying their posters etc - info is in the book.
Ever read the golden spruce? Sad story and Grant really fucked up but his point really resonates with ‘pet trees’ while millions are mowed down, the timber companies get to greenwash themselves by saying ‘hey we like trees too, so we saved this ‘big one’ as the mow other 10’+ diameter down on a daily basis.
Oregon and Washington have less than 1% old growth left…. I think BC is somewhere around 10%..
This is what big lonely will look like in a few decades. Exact same setup.. stand alone 690FBC3F-DCA3-4748-97FC-7189054204D3.jpeg 8F9382FE-EB77-4BDA-9E03-D3D3C1F2DA12.jpeg


Ps gotta link to that website. Very long story but I’m recently a dual citizen, and to be honest I’m fairly clueless on Canadian politics or even how to get involved or vote from abroad ( 60 miles)
 
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And then there is this that just popped up. Another 751 mass graves at a boarding school were just found. It use to be little bodies, and now it’s arrests and tree stumps

 
Not sure about the 10% number - it depends on how you define old growth - but anyway the amount of really really old trees left (and a buffer zone allowing them to survive - that's the important bit) is quite small:

Off topic but: About the graves and the tearing down of John A MacDonald's statues etc. - you me and a bottle(s) some time evo, maybe if Wesspur puts on a shindig sometime or something . . . The residential school thing is way more complex than some woke a$$holes in the media can possibly fathom. I know the bit I've seen up close and personal - my mother was a Grey Nun's RN and I grew up summers at times flying in and out of Native reserves in Manitoba and Ontario with Medical Services Branch to pick kids up when they needed surgery in Winnipeg - they would sometimes stay with us for some weeks at home after surgery until they were OK'd to return to the reserve. Many begged they didn't ever want to go back and I watched my mother weep bitterly about having to return them to reserve hospitals - some only to make a return trip back south after further abuse. It's a really complex story that is only being used for political mileage at present. Many, many poor (really poor) in those days, no matter their race or colour, were buried in unmarked graves - not to say residential school abuse didn't happen. But I remember my experience like it was seared into my being. Really not sure our country is going to last if this keeps up . . . . What does Buckin Billy Ray say? Soldiers of Kindness. The Way brother!
 

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Not sure about the 10% number - it depends on how you define old growth - but anyway the amount of really really old trees left (and a buffer zone allowing them to survive - that's the important bit) is quite small:

Off topic but: About the graves and the tearing down of John A MacDonald's statues etc. - you me and a bottle(s) some time evo, maybe if Wesspur puts on a shindig sometime or something . . . The residential school thing is way more complex than some woke a$$holes in the media can possibly fathom. I know the bit I've seen up close and personal - my mother was a Grey Nun's RN and I grew up summers at times flying in and out of Native reserves in Manitoba and Ontario with Medical Services Branch to pick kids up when they needed surgery in Winnipeg - they would sometimes stay with us for some weeks at home after surgery until they were OK'd to return to the reserve. Many begged they didn't ever want to go back and I watched my mother weep bitterly about having to return them to reserve hospitals - some only to make a return trip back south after further abuse. It's a really complex story that is only being used for political mileage at present. Many, many poor (really poor) in those days, no matter their race or colour, were buried in unmarked graves - not to say residential school abuse didn't happen. But I remember my experience like it was seared into my being. Really not sure our country is going to last if this keeps up . . . . What does Buckin Billy Ray say? Soldiers of Kindness. The Way brother!
I’d love a beer. Or a half pint of sumthin harder. Where abouts are you? I’ve attended Sundance with the Blackfoot, and personally know a handful of survivors who are vocal about the abuses they endured.

maybe the stat was Vancouver Island itself with the 10% thing.. after watching a few of Redges videos and Buckin’s all these logger videos popped up of felling the big ones just have to say wow!
 

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I think going back a few steps before First Nations people were corralled into reservations will reveal the real crime in this scenario. I have no doubt many children wanted an alternative to life on a reservation with an alcoholic parent or two, zero healthcare and little future but that's not the point. Their ancestors were free people, not tenants of a colonial slumlord. I'm Irish and I'm glad my family made it here following the potato blight but I'm more upset that the English deforested nearly all of Ireland in order to flush out and destroy the Irish people, which created a landscape that forced reliance on something like a potato which is not a forest grown foodstuff. I'm sure there is even a broader context than that to inform my view but certainly we can't look at a brief snapshot of history and form an opinion. Better to be a "woke" and at least open to a new interpretation of a twisted and incomplete story than to drink the Kool-aid and ask no questions. @ghostice I'm not saying you like Kool-aid, I am more so speaking generally here.
 
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Kool-aid can awaken many a vision depending on its ingredients. Perhaps some short-sighted folks need some of the expanding-flavor to promote some compassion.
 
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The Government of British Columbia (Horgan's clowns) has to be out of it's mind if they keep allowing old growth cutting anymore.
They must have a scorch the earth policy or something (maybe little brown envelopes on a regular basis or something like the rampant casino money laundering that nobody stops?). Just plain nuts.
 
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