Here is the discussion I would like to have. I see companies that are members or accredited TCIA members that are not ISA certified arborists. TCIA is like the BBB, they require a fee and basically judge if you run a good business there is no requirement to pass any test demonstrating any level of competency or knowledge of aboriculture. An ISA cert does. TCIA and companies that advertise TCIA accreditations seem to present the idea that members have demonstrated some basic knowledge of aboriculture which I think is misleading to the average customer looking for a good tree service that does quality work. There is a reason some cities require ISA certs for licensing but no TCIA accreditation. I understand that TCIA does alot around education in the tree care industry. They are an industry organization. They are a for profit organization that seems to claw away at being relevant. This isn't a pro ISA rant, they too seem to continue to sell certfications by the pound also. Difference is ISA created the gold standard for basic understanding of arboriculture, like it or not. I guess my issue is companies calling their TCIA membership a credential and TCIA presenting itself as any standard of knowledge or credential. I am not saying companies with a TCIA accreditation and no ISA cert do bad work just that it misleads people, and I dont think thats by accident.