Rec climbing thowbag launcher

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New rec/home climber here (sorry for the long post). I was searching the threads and found some old ones with launchers so I hope it's ok for a new one. First, if you have any ideas/ pics of portable ones please share.

Yes this isn't really necessary around where I am but I was talking with a coworker and we made this so he could use some of his new tools (plus the metal was free) and I could have some fun. I picked up the 8 foot tent pole from REI and the Big Shot tubing from Vermeer down the road and had the Roll n' lock as well as the bow trigger release.

The accessory cord is held on the bottom with the loop cinched as a prusik (Is that even a thing) and seems to work fine. I have 2 pins on the sections of poles because under tension they would rotate. I had them with prusiks but with no tension and the small cord they would slide to much so tape works for now. The bent part is steel bent cold by my buddy and is tapped/bolted into the solid aluminum tube. He found some hollow tubing that snug fit over the REI pole for reinforcement and used JB weld to keep that on solid. The solid tubing needed some lathe work to get the diameter good and is easily removed with the thumb screws to make it more compact if necessary. The tubing has a black powder gun ball (not sure what its called) pushed in and clamped tight and so far that hasn't moved.

I have used it plenty of times around the yard to work on my aim and set lines. It seems to be holding up fine and you can see under tension what the pole looks like. If you see any major concerns please let me know.

You can see it all packed up in my old Golite Jam 35 liter pack. I have everything in the bag minus my helmet that I strap on top. It fits everything I need for a summer trip in the nearby woods and not much more. Once it gets colder out I will need to bust out a bigger bag for layers.

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I built myself a pvc air cannon that fires tennis balls. Works pretty well, hits up to 90ft or so depending of the weight of the tennis balls (and those of the user at higher pressure, lol). I built it way larger than it had to be so I get away with under 60psi, the thing should be capable of 105psi though. Overall weight is just short of 10lbs or about 4.5kgs.
I found that a throwline launcher is mostly unnecessary for rec climbing, weighs too much and I can hit high enough limbs or my taste after a lot of throwline practise. The weighted tennis balls make for good hand-throwing weights too btw, and they are a lot cheaper at about 1$ per ball. I'll post some pics in a few minutes.
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Here is the cannon next to a 1 foot ruler
 
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I built myself a pvc air cannon that fires tennis balls. Works pretty well, hits up to 90ft or so depending of the weight of the tennis balls (and those of the user at higher pressure, lol). I built it way larger than it had to be so I get away with under 60psi, the thing should be capable of 105psi though. Overall weight is just short of 10lbs or about 4.5kgs.
I found that a throwline launcher is mostly unnecessary for rec climbing, weighs too much and I can hit high enough limbs or my taste after a lot of throwline practise. The weighted tennis balls make for good hand-throwing weights too btw, and they are a lot cheaper at about 1$ per ball. I'll post some pics in a few minutes.
I think I have seen something similar on the arborist mail order sites. 4.5kgs is a bit much for the backpack though. :-) I agree a launcher is mostly unnecessary for me as well and unneeded weight for a woods walk but sure has been fun in the yard. I am still new and enjoy advancing my TIP as practice at this point. Thanks for the reply.
 
I've been playing with vacuum cannons recently (not in a tree related way). It's just a single piece of PVC pipe with a vacuum nipple and tape covering each end, no heavy valves or fittings or tanks on the end.

It shoots a ping ping ball about 400mph...

Been thinking about trying to utilize the idea for a throw bag launcher cause it requires so little barrel length and support equipment, just a hand held pump and the tube it's self. (they shoot anything you size the tube to, Ive just use ping pong balls so far cause they're the safest things in my small area. Having said that, they easily blow clean threw 1/2" plywood!)
 
I've been playing with vacuum cannons recently (not in a tree related way). It's just a single piece of PVC pipe with a vacuum nipple and tape covering each end, no heavy valves or fittings or tanks on the end.

It shoots a ping ping ball about 400mph...

Been thinking about trying to utilize the idea for a throw bag launcher cause it requires so little barrel length and support equipment, just a hand held pump and the tube it's self. (they shoot anything you size the tube to, Ive just use ping pong balls so far cause they're the safest things in my small area. Having said that, they easily blow clean threw 1/2" plywood!)
Had never heard of such a thing so I had to check it out! I have to say that's pretty impressive! Also a link to a video is included!

 
I like the DIY head on this build. Really cool.
I thought the poles were a good idea until I read Tom's comment, I had no idea tent poles were such a problem. Darn shame since they are so light.
Thanks and same here on the pole, but I guess better safe than sorry. I was thinking since the aluminum is relatively thick for a tent pole I should be good to go. Back to the DIY drawing board...
 
I've been playing with vacuum cannons recently (not in a tree related way). It's just a single piece of PVC pipe with a vacuum nipple and tape covering each end, no heavy valves or fittings or tanks on the end.

It shoots a ping ping ball about 400mph...

Been thinking about trying to utilize the idea for a throw bag launcher cause it requires so little barrel length and support equipment, just a hand held pump and the tube it's self. (they shoot anything you size the tube to, Ive just use ping pong balls so far cause they're the safest things in my small area. Having said that, they easily blow clean threw 1/2" plywood!)
Man those are cool and like 39Buick I have never heard of those and had to search them. I showed my buddy who worked on this and he went down the internet rabbit on these. I will keep bustin' his stones now to see if he will give it a go. If for nothing else some good humor.
 
:oops: Seriously? A ping pong ball through 1/2" plywood?? How much air pressure does that take?
14.7psi (1 atmosphere). The main principal is that inside the barrel, in vacuum, the projectile encounters near zero resistance so it can accelerate at an insane rate. It's traveling Mach 3+ in the barrel but slows to a meezly ~400mph the moment it comes out the end and hits air!

Don't have any sort of throw bag launcher design in the works yet or anything but I have been thinking about it...

Look up Smarter Every Days video "how hard can you hit a golf ball", of course Destin takes it to the absolute extreme limits (him and his buddy in the video are literally rocket scientists) but he explains all the science behind how it works and stuff too.
 
I remember seeing a mythbusters episode on vacuum cannons a while back. They further increased the cannons power by adding a pressurized chamber behind the vaccum seal.
One of my favorite episodes! So glad you posted it!

For those that want to play with the idea, an eyelet inside the pipe that you attach the throwline to, flake it into the tube then load your throwbag might work ;)
 
Amazing that the tube is sealed with film.
There's another guy in YT that seals his with a solo cup just pushed in the end!

I like the idea of flaking the line inside the tube! I was playing with the idea of just running the line down the barrel and taping over it and it does work (mylar film is what I'm using BTW) but at my house I use an air powered vacuum pump, not sure if the sporadic pulses of vac. you would get from a hand pump would be enough with a thrown line impeding a perfect seal.

I think I need to buy / build a hand vacuum pump next!
 
There's another guy in YT that seals his with a solo cup just pushed in the end!

I like the idea of flaking the line inside the tube! I was playing with the idea of just running the line down the barrel and taping over it and it does work (mylar film is what I'm using BTW) but at my house I use an air powered vacuum pump, not sure if the sporadic pulses of vac. you would get from a hand pump would be enough with a thrown line impeding a perfect seal.

I think I need to buy / build a hand vacuum pump next!
Did it throw a throwbag when you tried it?
 
New rec/home climber here (sorry for the long post). I was searching the threads and found some old ones with launchers so I hope it's ok for a new one. First, if you have any ideas/ pics of portable ones please share.

Yes this isn't really necessary around where I am but I was talking with a coworker and we made this so he could use some of his new tools (plus the metal was free) and I could have some fun. I picked up the 8 foot tent pole from REI and the Big Shot tubing from Vermeer down the road and had the Roll n' lock as well as the bow trigger release.

The accessory cord is held on the bottom with the loop cinched as a prusik (Is that even a thing) and seems to work fine. I have 2 pins on the sections of poles because under tension they would rotate. I had them with prusiks but with no tension and the small cord they would slide to much so tape works for now. The bent part is steel bent cold by my buddy and is tapped/bolted into the solid aluminum tube. He found some hollow tubing that snug fit over the REI pole for reinforcement and used JB weld to keep that on solid. The solid tubing needed some lathe work to get the diameter good and is easily removed with the thumb screws to make it more compact if necessary. The tubing has a black powder gun ball (not sure what its called) pushed in and clamped tight and so far that hasn't moved.

I have used it plenty of times around the yard to work on my aim and set lines. It seems to be holding up fine and you can see under tension what the pole looks like. If you see any major concerns please let me know.

You can see it all packed up in my old Golite Jam 35 liter pack. I have everything in the bag minus my helmet that I strap on top. It fits everything I need for a summer trip in the nearby woods and not much more. Once it gets colder out I will need to bust out a bigger bag for layers.

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Dude I swear they sell that rubber bungy at my pet store as dog leashes. One end has a webbing loop on a small d ring. The other end has a reg ring. I think they say it will handle any dog up to 140 lbs .
It looks exactly the same but I assume the big shot tubing must differ, be better.
 
Dude I swear they sell that rubber bungy at my pet store as dog leashes. One end has a webbing loop on a small d ring. The other end has a reg ring. I think they say it will handle any dog up to 140 lbs .
It looks exactly the same but I assume the big shot tubing must differ, be better.
Thanks, maybe similar (I'll keep an eye out), but honestly I was surprised at how much force it takes to pull that back. That tubing is pretty heavy duty and when I first got it I thought it might be a mistake because it's pretty tough to pull back. Plus for a first go at it, having the pouch to hold a throwbag beat me having to bust out the "Thread Injector" and sewing something up.
 

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