product idea

treesap · Wednesday at 9:54 PM

I just had an idea, its a line setting device that a throwline gets tied to, and goes on a compound bow, replaces the arrow with a carbon fiber or aluminum rod, and has a bit of weight, sort of like the bigshot or apta, but for people who already have a compound bow, and dont want to spend hundreds of dollars on one of the above mentioned tools, in theory it would be accurate, and you could set a line 150 or so ft.

good idea or nah?

Tuebor · Wednesday at 9:58 PM

Already been done. Also with rifles.

Tom Dunlap · Wednesday at 10:13 PM

ONe issue to consider with bows is that they fall into the 'weapons' category in some cities. You won't get far trying to 'splain your way out of their use for line setting if LEO gets a call.

treesap · Wednesday at 10:21 PM

ahh yeahhh, crap

since that wont work, I am also wondering about how well one of the cheap $10 slingshots would set a throwline, I doubt it would be much better than doing it by hand, but it might be worth a shot

no, the pun was not intended

Cereal_Killer · Wednesday at 11:01 PM

Obviously laws are different place to place but around here you can bowfish on any public water and you're not considered to have a weapon, just "fishing equipment".

You can build an APTA for <$50, zip tie a $3 eBay laser pointer to it and have the best line setting tool available. Take your time and follow directions when doing your glue joints and don't pump a diy pvc APTA much above 60psi or so (not that you'll need to for Midwest trees).

treesap · Wednesday at 11:06 PM

Cereal_Killer said:
Obviously laws are different place to place but around here you can bowfish on any public water and you're not considered to have a weapon, just "fishing equipment".

You can build an APTA for <$50, zip tie a $3 eBay laser pointer to it and have the best line setting tool available. Take your time and follow directions when doing your glue joints and don't pump a diy pvc APTA much above 60psi or so (not that you'll need to for Midwest trees).

I have a potato gun, might try it out this weekend, just a pain since it has a solenoid valve, so I have to bring a battery of some sort, and its annoying to pump up by hand, really tho, once you can get the second from the first limb, you can do the rest by hand usually

Brocky · Wednesday at 11:43 PM

Multi pitch rather than single for the rock climbers.

ghostice · Wednesday at 11:46 PM

"I have a potato gun"
Me2
Had a weird experience with my APTA a couple of years ago - somebody called the black and whites - I do have a red dot scope on it (a la Tom Hoffman) - but this was after the line setting was done and it was on the ground on the case I use for it. Short explanation and the guys were really nice - it helped that I have the thing covered in arb stickers too maybe. But you never really know what people/ passersby will do in this paranoid age we live in. Something new every day . . . .

treesap · Thursday at 12:04 AM

ghostice said:
"I have a potato gun"
Me2
Had a weird experience with my APTA a couple of years ago - somebody called the black and whites - I do have a red dot scope on it (a la Tom Hoffman) - but this was after the line setting was done and it was on the ground on the case I use for it. Short explanation and the guys were really nice - it helped that I have the thing covered in arb stickers too maybe. But you never really know what people/ passersby will do in this paranoid age we live in. Something new every day . . . .

hey, doubles as the "pick up after yer dogs™ "

ConeCollector · Thursday at 2:22 AM

Here is a take on the APTA...
$50 or so in parts. I use a bike pump, or a cordless air compressor. This will launch a 12oz throw bag in the 200’ vertical foot range at a modest 60 PSI.

southsoundtree · Thursday at 2:59 AM

treesap said:
ahh yeahhh, crap

since that wont work, I am also wondering about how well one of the cheap $10 slingshots would set a throwline, I doubt it would be much better than doing it by hand, but it might be worth a shot

no, the pun was not intended

Learning to throw well is a money maker.

Can't get faster than a hand throw, when you can hit it first try.

60' or under for these aging joints.
Some are accurate, reportedly to 80'+.

treesap · Thursday at 12:41 PM

southsoundtree said:
60' or under for these aging joints.
Some are accurate, reportedly to 80'+.

hey, according to my neighbors grandson he is accurate to 200+ ft with a 16oz bag... and yes, hand throwing will obviously be better for most of your work, unless its something like one of the pine trees in my front yard at my old house, first limbs were 110 or so ft, I dont know exactly what type of pine they were, but I see them all over the place

Jehinten · Thursday at 1:00 PM

treesap said:
hey, according to my neighbors grandson he is accurate to 200+ ft with a 16oz bag... and yes, hand throwing will obviously be better for most of your work, unless its something like one of the pine trees in my front yard at my old house, first limbs were 110 or so ft, I dont know exactly what type of pine they were, but I see them all over the place

Sounds like he's exaggerating. Lighter throw weights go higher (10-12oz is typically used) 16oz is often used for double bagging.

Most people setting lines that high (200') start out with a launcher and fishing line since its lighter, then pull up throwline then rope.

treesap · Thursday at 2:03 PM

Jehinten said:
Sounds like he's exaggerating. Lighter throw weights go higher (10-12oz is typically used) 16oz is often used for double bagging.

Most people setting lines that high (200') start out with a launcher and fishing line since its lighter, then pull up throwline then rope.

yeah, I was joking, although he does seem to always think he does everything better, including tying knots, lol

Cambium_Climber · Friday at 2:52 PM

treesap said:
ahh yeahhh, crap

since that wont work, I am also wondering about how well one of the cheap $10 slingshots would set a throwline, I doubt it would be much better than doing it by hand, but it might be worth a shot

no, the pun was not intended

I've seen people use masons line with fishing sinkers. that combination seems to work well with slingshots. I think TheTreeCamper on youtube does that. Climb safe

treesap · Friday at 3:13 PM

Cambium_Climber said:
I've seen people use masons line with fishing sinkers. that combination seems to work well with slingshots. I think TheTreeCamper on youtube does that. Climb safe

I suppose, I can try it, since there is really nothing to lose, except a few fishing weights

Jonny · Friday at 6:20 PM

I bought a few of those triple band slingshots for Christmas presents this year and kept one for myself too. Lot of fun plinking cans in the backyard, definitely not powerful enough to send a 12 ounce bag any distance, but a fishing sinker might be fine. I’ll probably lose sight of it almost immediately. A little orange flagging tape would probably not hinder the flight much.
Whenever it warms up, I’ll go play with it.

treesap · Friday at 8:41 PM

Jonny said:
I bought a few of those triple band slingshots for Christmas presents this year and kept one for myself too. Lot of fun plinking cans in the backyard, definitely not powerful enough to send a 12 ounce bag any distance, but a fishing sinker might be fine. I’ll probably lose sight of it almost immediately. A little orange flagging tape would probably not hinder the flight much.
Whenever it warms up, I’ll go play with it.

tell me how it works, tried a throwline for the first time a few hours ago, cant see much need for anything better than hand throws below maybe 50-60ft, but there is always a time and a place for more tools