Nutrition

andrus kokerov

Well-Known Member
How meny of you guys follow a strict diet? Or you just eat what you get and work hard? Thinking of getting a plan from a personal trainer. Would like to get a bit lighter but sometimes my eating is messed up. Depends what im working on. Can happen that i miss my prelunch snack and sometimes even lunch. That dosent do eny good...maybe a plan would force me more. Eny experience?

Andrus
 

SWIFTYCLMBR

Member
I find myself on a schedule similar to yours. Sort of eat when you can. I can say that what/when I do eat, it is healthy, high quality food.
I don't like the schedule but I do believe there are benefits to it. Fasting requires the cells in our bodies to fully expel all remaining nutrients. Allowing what we intake to fully be absorbed. I am really never sick, feel very little lingering pain from older broken bones (neck).
I weigh about 165 to 170.
I cannot move the scale off 170 (want to tho) but will drop weight when my diet changes. I drink alot of water, beer..stay away from sugar...keep climbing!


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Dblehron

Active Member
Find out how many calories you burn in a day with an online calculator, decide on a macro nutrient split, and experiment until you find something that works.

I put on 24 pounds with my winter bulk which did wonders for my numbers in the gym, dropped 12 pounds for summer and I'm currently in the process of putting it back on.
 

andrus kokerov

Well-Known Member
Was thinking off that the other day if enybody has measured how much calories they burn when climbing? My weight hasent changed for a long time. Im between 88-91kg (194-200pounds) all year round.
 

fall_risk

Well-Known Member
I follow what might be called a paleo or primal lifestyle, in a non-dogmatic, 80/20, relaxed kind of way. It's a little bit self-regulating, because if I get off-track, I feel like crap. I also have problems with digestion and heartburn if I don't eat well, that's what originally got me reading about this stuff years ago. I am happier, feel better, and easier to get along with, when I eat high quality food.

I think that any plan which focus on the quantity of food eaten, whether by calorie, serving, block, etc...is unsustainable over the long haul at best, and a recipe for disordered eating and stress at worst. Humans survived for eons with nothing but hunger and thirst to guide portion control, and I find that when I'm eating high quality food, it's very hard to over-eat, in fact, sometimes it's hard to eat enough. Crap food, however, is hard not to over-eat.

I know "lifestyle" is kind of a gross word - some people use "template", which is hardly better, but it really is about how we live. Sleep, stress, socialization, activity/exercise (we've mostly got that covered, no thanks to Reg, Paul Cox, Kevin Bingham, etc), sun exposure (no problems there, either, especially for Swing), it all affects how we eat, and is in turn affected by how we eat.

These sites/people have been very useful to me for nutrition advice, among other things:
Chris Kresser
Robb Wolf
Mark Sisson
Jordan Reasoner
Johnny Pain
John Kiefer
Dallas Hartwig

This is a pretty good summary from Mark Sisson:
 

barley wilkerson

New Member
I follow what might be called a paleo or primal lifestyle, in a non-dogmatic, 80/20, relaxed kind of way. It's a little bit self-regulating, because if I get off-track, I feel like crap. I also have problems with digestion and heartburn if I don't eat well, that's what originally got me reading about this stuff years ago. I am happier, feel better, and easier to get along with, when I eat high quality food.

I think that any plan which focus on the quantity of food eaten, whether by calorie, serving, block, etc...is unsustainable over the long haul at best, and a recipe for disordered eating and stress at worst. Humans survived for eons with nothing but hunger and thirst to guide portion control, and I find that when I'm eating high quality food, it's very hard to over-eat, in fact, sometimes it's hard to eat enough. Crap food, however, is hard not to over-eat.

I know "lifestyle" is kind of a gross word - some people use "template", which is hardly better, but it really is about how we live. Sleep, stress, socialization, activity/exercise (we've mostly got that covered, no thanks to Reg, Paul Cox, Kevin Bingham, etc), sun exposure (no problems there, either, especially for Swing), it all affects how we eat, and is in turn affected by how we eat.

These sites/people have been very useful to me for nutrition advice, among other things:
Chris Kresser
Robb Wolf
Mark Sisson
Jordan Reasoner
Johnny Pain
John Kiefer
Dallas Hartwig

This is a pretty good summary from Mark Sisson:
this is where i found paleo/primal a few years back. IT WORKS. Later, i got an app for my phone, DietPoint, which has several hundred different diet plans including shopping lists and scheduled reminders to eat. I chose one of the paleo plans and stuck to it for about 8 months and lost 25-30 pounds JUST THROUGH FOOD ALONE, no exercise, and kept it off, mostly... i did gain back some weight in muscle though. When i started climbing, biceps appeared overnight almost... when i get back into my routine and start climbing MORE, my fat to muscle weight ratio WILL change. At 5'6
" i weigh in at about 200 pounds now. When actively watching my nutrition, i was down to about 190 FROM 220 this time last year.

All i can say is FOLLOW THROUGH and work on your core as much as everything else, if not more.
 

Naturarbo

Member
eat as much animal protein as possible,drink hand craft beer,wine without sulphites,shit loads of water,natural redbull lemon,honey,salt...work all day under 100f.drink more water...my stamina improved after that...proved wonder to me..could kill someone else
 

Mowerr

Well-Known Member
so no vegans or vegetarians in this group I do believe..nobody complaint
I know he hasn't chimed in yet but I believe evo@ is almost a full vegan and he has a good diet I've seen him write about before on the buzz somewhere
 

Naturarbo

Member
have you tried it ??
full vegans dont have what it takes(why do you think he doesnt reply)and I will challenge anyone in front of me not online,sorry...I can talk a lot as an avatar but takes a real person to do it in front of me
 

Naturarbo

Member
have you tried it ??
full vegans dont have what it takes(why do you think he doesnt reply)and I will challenge anyone in front of me not online,sorry...I can talk a lot as an avatar but takes a real person to do it in front of me
I know a vegetarian from birth,very strong bloke for about 5 minutes then he dies
 

Mowerr

Well-Known Member
Well as far as I know @evo is a top notch arborist and very well respected for his knowledge and skill and can work with the best of us.
I believe he sometimes eats chicken and fish for meats.
And probably hasn't responded because I didn't link him right or he's too busy right now.
 

evo

Well-Known Member
Well as far as I know @evo is a top notch arborist and very well respected for his knowledge and skill and can work with the best of us.
I believe he sometimes eats chicken and fish for meats.
And probably hasn't responded because I didn't link him right or he's too busy right now.
Yup, not the best climber out there but I do believe I have few skills under my belt. I’ve gotten lucky to have some great teachers. One guy with over 40 years under his belt, another with 28.
I pretty much just eat fish for animal, and I’m picky on what fish.
It’s not for health reasons, nor political. I’ve just never ate red meat. I’ve tried it a few times in my life, and it just comes back up. I’m guessing that since I’ve haven’t had it I don’t have the enzymes or the flora to break it down. If shit hits the fan I have no issues killing a bunny or a deer, or the neighbors slow elk, for food. I just don’t really associate red meat with food, I think it stinks when my wife cooks a steak, and just looks like a lump of flesh. If I don’t wash the pan and get a bunch of meat juice on my food I get a tummy ache and gassy.
With any diet you can eat healthy or unhealthy. I’ve known some very unhealthy vegans, and have known some brick house vegans.
 

Naturarbo

Member
full vegans....no milk,no cheese,no eggs,no leather belts,no leather shoes,no animal product in their life...
"Well as far as I know @evo is a top notch arborist and very well respected for his knowledge and skill and can work with the best of us.
I believe he sometimes eats chicken and fish for meats."
Is he a true vegan????
I dont understand enough of english to confirm or not...language problems I believe...in portugal we only speak portuguese
 

Naturarbo

Member
Yup, not the best climber out there but I do believe I have few skills under my belt. I’ve gotten lucky to have some great teachers. One guy with over 40 years under his belt, another with 28.
I pretty much just eat fish for animal, and I’m picky on what fish.
It’s not for health reasons, nor political. I’ve just never ate red meat. I’ve tried it a few times in my life, and it just comes back up. I’m guessing that since I’ve haven’t had it I don’t have the enzymes or the flora to break it down. If shit hits the fan I have no issues killing a bunny or a deer, or the neighbors slow elk, for food. I just don’t really associate red meat with food, I think it stinks when my wife cooks a steak, and just looks like a lump of flesh. If I don’t wash the pan and get a bunch of meat juice on my food I get a tummy ache and gassy.
With any diet you can eat healthy or unhealthy. I’ve known some very unhealthy vegans, and have known some brick house vegans.
so you do no milk,cheese,eggs,butter,yougurt,right?to me you are almost all round just like me...
and your belt??lol
dont think you are a vegan like @Mowerr mentioned.
Also remember human machines can adapt and evolve given the right space.
Glad to find some one I can chat about food.
Seen a doc while ago "origins"where they proof monkeys started eating meat,got down from the trees and brains increased in size,maybe a relation in there?
 
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