E2E brummelling -- possible without unbraiding?

eyehearttrees

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Tampa-Area
I can't for the life of me figure out how to make a proper triple-(or double-)brummelling on the second leg of a lanyard, IE the end whose brummelling requires you to pass an already-brummelled leg of rope through the standing body of rope (step 5 of Samson's great write-up)

I'd figured "Shops must be un-braiding the cordage to get the 2nd end brummelled", until this newest batch of hitches....got 30' of Ice Tail and after a couple hitches I'd run out of my lil plastic thimbles ($0.50 'Lo-Wall' tight eye thimbles), instead of waiting on the new ones to land I went and spliced E2E's from the rest of my cordage thinking "Oh at least I can do proper brummelling w/o the thimbles, and I've never actually tested/used them w/o the thimbles anyway so 'testing' and all" but was surprised to find I still couldn't pass the brummelled rope through itself to make my 2nd side's brummelling :/

I've noticed this before but always had hardware/thimbles and ascribed it to them, now I see I can't brummel at all and have found the 1st Samson instruction I can't figure-out / follow :/ Any help greatly appreciated!

[PS - It'd crossed my mind to actually do the unbraid/rebraid to make the brummellings but the time it'd take me didn't seem worth it, heck I was already contemplating just making this batch with knots instead of splices, @Brocky taught me Re braiding so am pretty sure I could do it, just that it'd double/triple the time it takes me to crank-out a hitch..]
 

Brocky

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Location
Michigan
Gradually getting the hole big enough, and massaging the opening as it gets bigger. I go through the tubular fids then switch to the Point Hudson fids. I haven’t tried it but putting some throwline through the eye and then through the opening would allow you to pull as well as push it through.
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dmonn

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Location
Mequon
A locking brummel with one end fixed is what you're trying to do. Not difficult. You do kind of a non-intuitive inversion of the rope. Just follow the directions. It's like magic!

 

Brocky

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Location
Michigan
A locking brummel with one end fixed is what you're trying to do. Not difficult. You do kind of a non-intuitive inversion of the rope. Just follow the directions. It's like magic!

This is the Mobius method of making a locked brummel, it doesn’t work if trying to splice a ring or snap in the eye, or covered eyes.

Love doing these. I think it has a name?
Ah yea, Grog calls it a McDonald brummel.
That’s the McDonald method of making a Mobius eye splice, put 5-7 of them in a row, with a very short bury, and you have the McDonald brummel splice. The Icetail in my above picture was done this way. It’s as strong as the standard bury splice.
 

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