Just curious since it says your from Alpena also if Fair and Square your local competition ( probably not much competition ) or have you a former or current employee?I guess this is how Fair and Square out of Alpena MI take logs down...... whatcha guys think?
You nailed it Reach. If there are 5 simple ways to reduce force in a rigging system that also means there are 5 easy ways to increase it. This crew is doing them all.I think a few things: one is that this is some pretty scary looking work, between the rope that has been tied together in two places, the one-handed saw operation, and the way the rope not only comes off the spar at a hard angle, but the guy on the ground locked that log up far too hard for no good reason. The guy in the lift wearing shorts and no fall arrest harness looks bad to me too. In short, I’m glad they’re not working at my house!
Edit: Upon review of their website, this quote I found seems to sum up my thoughts. “Fair & Square Tree Service located in Alpena, Michigan specializes in high risk tree removal at price you can afford.” I think the “high risk” is the level of risk taken by the guy in the shorts, not the hazard level of the tree.
Thank you for the clarification on my post, clearly you know what I meant to say, but it could have come out better. Random thought, I just noticed where you’re from - have we met? I am not far from you, and in fact we do most of our work in the Lancaster, PA area.You nailed it Reach. If there are 5 simple ways to reduce force in a rigging system that also means there are 5 easy ways to increase it. This crew is doing them all.
For clarification, the reason the specialize in dangerous Trees is every tree the do they make dangerous in many assorted ways already noted.
The sad part is they won’t reach out for help, because it is hard to learn something you are convinced you already know. Looking at a few of their other videos it seems they need a class on tree identification as well.
I agree with VersaNursery. If anybody is in there area, reach out to them.
Reach, I was not busting your balls, just fixing your jokeThank you for the clarification on my post, clearly you know what I meant to say, but it could have come out better. Random thought, I just noticed where you’re from - have we met? I am not far from you, and in fact we do most of our work in the Lancaster, PA area.
My poor wording strikes again! I know you were fixing my joke, and that’s what I meant to imply in my reply, but reading my reply now it looks like I was offended when in fact I was anything but! Clearly a big case of “open mouth, insert foot” in my part, and unintentional at that.Reach, I was not busting your balls, just fixing your joke
I am actually much closer than you know! The family company is based out of Lancaster. I live further east.
I am sure we have crossed paths. I am generally anti social and totaly introverted, unless work forces me to be otherwise. So I tend to slip under the radar when not training or presenting.
The article Jonny linked, pretty much sums it up. Since then I have refined a bit of my original thinking, espicialy on what I call rope stretch in the article. Tools and technique has changed, but the basics are the same since tree started growing.Hi Tony,
Could you briefly run through the 5 ways? I only quickly surmise
lessen the log free fall distance
increase braking/run distance
use plenty of rope to absorb shock force
use overhead rig point friction to cut down rig pulley rope tension doubling
avoid dynamics (but you can't in a -ve rig) (so doesn't count)
please educate the masses i.e. me too and thank you
Hardly.. there is so much practical information left out of that book and video series. Such a failure to include so much is a pretty good indication that the authors simply do not have the sense, or the experience to include it.While I would love to take credit for the lsit. It is all Peter Donzelli and Sharon Lilly’s work from the Art and Science of Practical Rigging. Still an excellent resource