SRT DRT DmRT vs. MRS SRS What do we call it?
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This^ A well-done video, as always, Richard. But as stated above, I believe that a firm commitment by the climbing community will do more for reducing confusion than any refinements made to the acronyms. We need to just pick them and stick with what we choose.
All acronyms need to be defined when voiced for the first time. Discrepancies and variables can be addressed at that time. Both the systems and the techniques overlap depending.... like tree work itself. In my mind, nailing it down to one "right way" of saying it is less important than a consistent understanding of how they are used.
All acronyms need to be defined when voiced for the first time. Discrepancies and variables can be addressed at that time. Both the systems and the techniques overlap depending.... like tree work itself. In my mind, nailing it down to one "right way" of saying it is less important than a consistent understanding of how they are used.
Yep, all of that is not within my control, I just try to be logical. I just see the powers-that-be going to acronyms that are so close, to almost be meaningless. I mean truly, lose one letter and you lose everything. Two baskets, a moving basket and a stationary basket, then a lot more explaining to do.
It seems to me that two ropes and two devices would be stationary double ropes technique, or double stationary rope technique, SDRT or DSRT, because each rope could be used independently.
Twin Ropes is using two ropes like one, so just one device. I don't know, I'm speculating. That's the way it is in rock climbing.
Twin Ropes is using two ropes like one, so just one device. I don't know, I'm speculating. That's the way it is in rock climbing.
The past use, IMO, was confusing about double vs doublED. Dd...when in fact both are in reality, "doubled", just that one moves while ... doubled...the other does not.
Also an important distinction and one being overlooked, is the two fixed ends of DRT vs a fixed end / free end, of SRT.
Give this some thought. 2 or tandem SRT has 2 fixed ends and 2 free ends probably very far apart, DRT has 2 fixed ends at the climber. Where the ends are or are not connected, is huge.
Also an important distinction and one being overlooked, is the two fixed ends of DRT vs a fixed end / free end, of SRT.
Give this some thought. 2 or tandem SRT has 2 fixed ends and 2 free ends probably very far apart, DRT has 2 fixed ends at the climber. Where the ends are or are not connected, is huge.
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I personally am not a fan of acronyms. They all need to be learned and rarely are stand-alone explanations on what they cover.
As tree people, we should be very familiar with the dangers of trying to simplify names and terms while at the same time hoping they will be self-explanatory to those that read them. What we do and how we work is simple only in concept. The details are anything but simple.
I was resistive at first but am OK with just using MRS and SRS as a baseline. Does it cover all variables within that framework? Of course not but nothing ever will. The biggest step we can take towards clarifying our terminology is to come together as a group and agree on something to use and stick with it.
As tree people, we should be very familiar with the dangers of trying to simplify names and terms while at the same time hoping they will be self-explanatory to those that read them. What we do and how we work is simple only in concept. The details are anything but simple.
I was resistive at first but am OK with just using MRS and SRS as a baseline. Does it cover all variables within that framework? Of course not but nothing ever will. The biggest step we can take towards clarifying our terminology is to come together as a group and agree on something to use and stick with it.
