This is one of the best threads I have read to date. I'm just a new rec climber but have been researching the forces at work with rope angles and tie in points. Have been reading the rigging threads due to the correlation of weight and size of logs you guys work with. Fascinating stuff for someone with my lack of knowledge! Most of the information in this thread has taught me a great deal! Appreciate all of you guys sharing, what a great resource right here!