De' Island Buzzer
If it works....work it
If it works....work it
Could it be they know things about their process that we don't?I suppose it does do that too, but it seems like simply kerfing the corners of the hinges does the same thing and is way less fiddly.
Sharp chain pretty much does the work. Drop out/ pop out a heavy gob/ facecut with gravity.I like this sort of conversation, its interesting. Ive worked alot in the USA but as an educator for Davey, not a cutter. Theres one thing that bothers me with the humbolt cut, and that is. Your making the diagonal felling cut in an upward direction. I understand you could use the dogs to bite in a leever, but arnt you cutting upwards so having to lift the saw rather than using gravity by cutting down?
...It took a lot of time...Evidently this is controversial, but I always angle cut first. It’s much easier to gun the angle and then cut perpendicular to the grain from corner to corner, humbolt or conventional. I’m all about simplicity and consistency. This is also why I usually add a blockout to a conventional notch rather than creating an open face (for ground falling cuts) to create the same effect. Trying to cut twice on a floating plane is hard. Cutting to something relative like the grain is not. I was trained the traditional way and it took a lot of experimentation to finally question why one wouldn’t angle cut first. Now it is standard procedure for me. I get consistent results and rely heavily on my skills as a faller.
Angle first does great for big trees. I have taught many how to fall with success following these guidelines:...It took a lot of time...
Horizontal first, the rookie can gun it right, first time. Then, the second, third...
Usually they don't. They use hope, not an aimed-like-a-rifle accuracy.
How does one correct an angle-first, by 5*?
How does angle-first pan out when really needed, big trees, wider than big bars?
I'll bite, why should we cut the angle first? Do they cut the angle for a Humboldt cut too, or just conventional?
Btw, I tried your straight leg nonsense today. Wtf, man. I think you get away with it because your trees are straight. I was up in a dead pine canopy going koala half the time, but I did try to straighten out more. It was fine on spar, but just too balancy in the top...
Agree as a system it seems to serve them very well in the context which it's being used. I enjoy watching a pro feller about his business regardless of how he's putting trees on the ground. Apply that same system to a midwest yard tree though and its fiddly diddly doo. Fantastic discussion regardless.Could it be they know things about their process that we don't?
If they are peeling veneer, they may want what they are getting in the butt.
Low, low stumps and forwarders instead of skidders, part of the reason.
First let me say that I am really enjoying your input here benfuest!I get it, employing the Humboldt means the big bit can just fall out. Its dificult to put the conversation together with diferences in the way we talk. Its a shame. I guess ther's no substitute for standing infront of the tree together.
Funny but in my work environment it is a good thing to have experience in both the logging/falling world and the arb world. Many of the great loggers, buckers, mean mutherfucker, fallers, and climbers in my area do just that. I myself started out as a yarder logger, but one who climbed, topped trees, and ring spar poles for lift when it was needed. The more I climbed and blew big tops the more I loved it. Slowly over a decade or so I transitioned from being a full time logger , and began splitting my time between the 2.Thanks Rico, your very kind. I should point out that over here a climber and a cutter are two very diferent beasts. Im a comercial faller/cutter been doing it for nearly thirty years, and never climbed a tree ever. Yes I understand a little of arb but Im a cutter. Arb lads dont go into the woods, they climb, prune and do residential tree work. The two dont mix. I was wondering what was meant by Straight leg and that but from your last post I understand your talking stance and ergonomics in the tree. Its the same on the ground. Take me Im 5 foot 6 and a bit and weigh naff all. But I believe Ive stayed in the job by employing sound tequnique in my felling practice. Sure theres pain but I put that down to a damp climate. In the woods I treat everyone as equals, there all idiots with the abilaty to kill me until they proove otherwise and I expect the same. The worst insult we have is to award a guy the DCM, otherwise known as the "Dont Come Monday". Like most I have some pictures and if I can work out how Ill try to post. Kit and the type of work ext. As I write Im reminded of early contracts on high value Ok stands. EWording would go somthing like. "any tree damaged due to insuficient boreing back cutting or poor directional felling will not be paid for, and any tree deemed to felled from a high stump will not be paid for" Learn fast or starve.