Bout the same as you are. Bet it works well at low rates of cats but J beetles will sit there and eat poison for a while before succumbing. So that said, Azatin with Acelepryn is expensive but effective and many times I'm dealing with mixed borders with lots of things in bloom. Also, VERY low toxicity for the applicator. Also has root drench/soak labeling for some critters which I will try next season and this autumn for mag scale.