Discussion in 'Stationary Rope Technique-Half the rope, twice the' started by Drewtree, Aug 2, 2016.
Would it be asking too much to see a video of you tying this?
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Kris, if you know how to tie the Michoacan, just rotate it 180 degrees and bring the eyes forward.
The Michoacan is a double eye Blake's hitch that replaces the tail with an eye and only goes through one wrap at the bottom instead of two wraps.
Thats my setup, hrc on taychon with a vt. 10mm ocean poly works also for me.
10mm beeline code blue on 11mm kernmaster
3 over 2 VT
Also using 8mm RIT cord on 11mm kernmaster 4 over 2 VT
My setup is a RW ZK-1 with a ABR/Treestuff 12" stiff tether and HC pulley. Been using 28" 8mm beeline e2e on Samson Velocity with a 4-wrap Distel. It works OK at first but eventually gets very bindy and the hitch constantly needs to be loosened up. There is so much friction that it won't work with a HAAS. I keep meaning to try taking a wrap out of my Distel.
Would switching to a (shorter??) Oceans 9.3mm e2e help, or should I switch to tying a michoacan or VT???
160 lbs. +gear
If you can get a michoacan to play nice they're fantastic. They do seem to be a bit finicky with hitch cords and wraps. Try a 3/2 and 4/1. I weigh about the same as you amd those work for me with a stiffer cord like your beeline.
I do love a nice fast vt but the setback is undesirable once you are used to a hitch that doesn't do that.
Thanks. I will look into the michoacan.
Is anyone climbing on a RW and distel hitch?
I have settled on a 28" 10mm epicord in a 4 over 1 micho on cougar blue or grey (also Yale 11.7 family). It is smooth on ascent (and easy to tend) and grabs reliably. No binding... Works great in all weather conditions. I'm 165 without gear.
I have used the distel with the same cord and rope mentioned above, but find it too grabby on ascent. It is great for descending and jumps .
Usually when I tie up in the canopy. It's bombproof, so I don't always have to fine tune it like the VT.
The Distel has a few "cousins" that you might want to try.
The Happy Hands and Very Happy Hands are from Steve Bullman's knotguide on the Arbtalk forum. The eyes switch their actions after the wraps and are the reverse of the Distel.
The Matt Cornell, below the Distel, is tied the same as the Distel, except instead of the eyes just bypassing each other, they form an overhand knot at the finish under the diagonal bridge.
The MC Happy Hands, which I originated, is the reverse of the Matt Cornell.
The Very Happy Hands can probably also be reversed,making a sixth hitch,but I haven't played with it much.
The five maybe six hitches can each be rotated 180 degrees to double your amount of choices!
Thanks! Good stuff.
Anyone have pics of how to tie the 4/1 Micho?
It's just like a Blakes...
No shit ....
That set up looks so clean Reed
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You missed such a good chance... should be using beeline black.
It is beeline black...
Does it get less black? I thought it was just worn beeline.
A guy here has one that he doesn't use and you can't even really see the pattern.
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