1. moss

    moss Well-Known Member

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    Sterling says Scion has 2% elongation at 540 lbs, Tachyon is 2.2%, Yale 11.7 double braid 1.4%. I'm probably the only one that doesn't mind the 2.2% on Tachyon so 2% For Scion is very acceptable for me. The Yale 11.7s are great with the runner as everyone knows, the part I don't like is how much it flattens with the runner, tougher to grip than the Scion which stays more round. Tachyon doesn't work with the runner, stays too round and firm. The elongation numbers are mostly apples and oranges as measuring methodology seems different per rope manufacturer, maybe some one else can translate to equivalencies.
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    I have had exactly the opposite experience. My runner is so much smoother and easier to control on ropes that stay round. Samson static is still my favorite, followed by tachyon.
    I just use my wrench on my prism.
     
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    That is really interesting. My beat up old Poison Ivy and my new Yale Aztec are great with the RR, Tachyon terrible. It may be because I weigh nothing.
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    Could be. I'm pushing 200 geared up. More like 170 naked.
     
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    Weird one yesterday. I was climbing tree structure with my chest harness attached to runner with the xsre biner, lunged up to grab a branch when I put weight on system it slid because the Biner had grabbed the damn slic pin in the bird. One in a million shot. Never before, probably never again. Head up though. IMG_0073.JPG IMG_0075.JPG
     
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    Had that happen to me two weeks ago, with the quickie as the tending point...


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    Glad to see you are okay ! That could have sucked, big time! Am I seeing this pic correctly? You have an xsre biner attached to the bird slic pin? Is that the one in a million, you're describing? Wow!
     
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    Yes, xsre was attached to the tether on the runner already, then it clipped the bird pin
     
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    It was a good thing I was feet on the tree at that moment.
     
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    Same here. Always aware, hi yah!


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    Looks like that is now a clip-down action only.
    It also looks like it couldn't reach if the runner was holding any sort of load. Still, good to be aware of.
     
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    Yeah, I hate the clip down config though. Very awkward
     
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    Can't say that I feel you. Clip right sucks though. Always left.
    Neck tether goes on first thing and comes off last every day.
     

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    I make sure I keep on that, I run a different beener but also non locking. Glad you were both okay.
     
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    Flip the XSRE over so the gate's on the bottom.
     
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    Something that might work (untested as of yet) would be a large straw or a piece of pvc tube. Something that simple covers the joint yet easily moves when needed. Rubber tubing would work if you can find one that rolls out of the way but it may be more cumbersome then a simple plastic tube.
     
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    It's very awkward to clip like that, I will probably just try to be vigilant.
     
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    I agree. Plus it never happens with the Akimbo....


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    Don't say that word over here man!
     
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    "Weird one yesterday. I was climbing tree structure with my chest harness attached to runner with the xsre biner, lunged up to grab a branch when I put weight on system it slid because the Biner had grabbed the damn slic pin in the bird. One in a million shot. Never before, probably never again. Heads up though."

    Great heads up - thank you.
    I most always use two short pieces of rubber tubing on the top horns of my RR's - more for comfort on my thumbs on descent. Side effect - these close up the space between the side rails enough it'd be hard to get even a small biner snuck in there I think. Downside - you have to wiggle off at least one of the rubber tube pieces to get your climbing rope in and out, but that's pretty easy. There may be even thicker walled tubing out there too that would close up the space even more. 'Nuther option than tubing on the biner . . .

    http://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?item=1245
     

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