Rope reccomendations for SRT

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  1. tommyh

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    For those of you who employ SRT for more than just their ascent ( work positioning) I wanted to see if yous wouldn't mind sharing what ropes you. when the first rope wrench came out I got one mainly because of the appeal of using a rope Walker type system for long ascents. Until then I was just using an old school foot lock prusik/technique. And not only the conservation of energy but also the bailout, " in case of emergency" capabilities. I attended an SRT seminar in New Hampshire right around the time the hitch hiker was coming out.
    Long story short, I abandoned the Rope wrench and ended up with a unicender and 200 ft of km3 (I think it's called) I use this system mainly for access, unless it's just a straight up and down. The uncontrolled feeling that the unicender has on descent is something I still can't get used to.
    So I guess this is kind of a two-part question for you guys what rope would you recommend I use and I was thinking of getting one of these rope runners because they seem as though they mimic the dialed-in feel of a cordage friction hitch
    So like I said I know a lot of you guys use this so any insight or advice would be greatly appreciated sorry for being so long-winded
     
  2. Worthaug

    Worthaug Well-Known Member

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    The runner on Yale's 11.7s can't be beat. KM III Max on the wrench.


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    Tachyon. ✌️
     
  4. tommyh

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    So you guys aren't finding it necessary to use a line with more "static" qualities? I read in one of the other threads some one referring to the "stiffness" of the more static lines, "poor hand", I believe it's called.
     
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    Static lines are for access only, not work positioning. Which is why we tend to use lines like tachyon and other Yale 11.7s .
    But everybody has their preference. I heard calamine is good on the wrench. Yale s answer is supposed to be pretty good. There's a thread on here somewhere
     
  6. ghostice

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    From an old ice/ alpine climber's perspective, pretty much all our arborist ropes are static - i.e. if you did take a decent whipper on one, you're probably going to have a holiday in the expensive care facility. Dave (never met the man but would like to sometime) from Wesspur explains this well (when you can hear him over the lonesome crow):



    In my RR's, I like Tachyons of various colours, Cherry Bomb, Tangent/Voyager. HTP and Edelrid Performance work but seem to cable a bit with a couple of trips up 'n down. I'd ike to try Bluemoon, the Yale 11.7.
    But whatever you do use, rope technology has come a long long way since the days when we all made our own ice pro outa electrical conduit! Modern ropes rock.
     
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  7. Yimboob

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    I use a runner or wrench. I like cougar blue for both runner and wrench. I liked the samson vortex alot when i did ddrt more. It was good both ddrt and srt with my runner and wrench. I used a km3max for a bit and didnt like the stiffness aside from ascending.

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    I'm with @Worthaug on this... I like KM3-Max with the Rope Wrench and Yale 11.7mm with the Akimbo (I don't have a RR).

    9mm ArbPro E2E

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    Sick setup!
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    I really love my hitchhiker 2 on taychon personally. Some kmIII is on my list to try.

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    I have come to really enjoy htp 11. I climb on it any style (doubled, HH2, wrench, trango cinch) and it has been enjoyable even as slender as it is.
     
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    No one finds it funky to switch over to DdRT with a small diameter rope?
     
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    That's when I grab my pfanner gloves to compensate.

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    So some of the srt ropes (referring to sherrilltree's rope chart) seem to have a high elongation %. But that is at 540lbs. I know some ropes are meant to stay fairly static until a certain weight preventing injury. But how static are they? Looking at the kernmeleon (or whatever it's called) which is 3% and the scion ropes which are 6.8%!! Anyone have any idears on this.
    Kernmaster
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    Poison ivy
    Have my interest.
    However I DO already have and enjoy the 12.7mm Vortex. It's low stretch for srt ascent, and still close to a half inch for DdRT.
     
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    Poison Ivy/Hivy was the first rope I bought and I don't plan on switching any time soon. Good knotability, low stretch and very smooth.


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    Poison ivy is a yale 11.7 rope. Excellent choice for all kinds of climbing
     
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    Don't trust your life to anyone but Yale.


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    That opinion has a lot of consequences. Do you really mean it, and why?
     
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    Just being a brand loyal, conceited jerk. I support Teuf and Samson too. But wouldn't stray far from those big three. NOT A FAN OF ALL GEAR/ ATLANTIC BRAIDS!


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    What is the problem with All Gear?
     

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