Help decide the fate of a leaning tree and a tree with Poison Ivy

Discussion in 'Pesticides and Ferts' started by Saleem, Oct 20, 2017.

  1. Saleem

    Saleem New Member

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    Greetings from a new member, a first time home owner and a first time gardener,

    I have two trees in our small yard that, according to some opinions, gots to go (pictures attached).
    The first two pics (named 1 & 2) are of a tree that is leaning towards my neighbor's yard and deck.
    The second set of two pics (3 & 4) are of a tree that is leaning towards my open garage, shows signs of weakness as it being drained by Poison Ivy. There is minor growth at the very top of this tree but the rest of the leaves are all poison ivy. Not sure how long it has been on the tree or how long the tree will last and I don't want to take any risks as it may end up on my car some day. If for the worst reasons I do have to remove both trees, I plan to plant four more to replace them.

    1) My first question is that should I be worried that if the first tree (pics 1 & 2) falls and if it causes any damage, will I be liable?
    2) I'm not sure what kind of tree it is and I would hate to cut a healthy tree. It feels it has strong roots and is healthy as I have tried pushing, pulling and exerting pressure on it to see if it easily moves. But the way it is leaning on the chain link fence can not only take the fence down but also land on our neighbors deck.

    3) For the second tree (pictures 3 & 4), I have seen some videos and read some blogs on getting rid of poison ivy and cutting down trees. I am handy with told and up for the challenge as some make it seem like an easy job as long as I take precaution. But some folks' reviews are quite scary so thought I should check with the pros before attempting anything.
    4) Does Vinegar do a good job of getting rid of poison ivy? If yes, then how long should I treat it with vinegar before attempting to cut the ivy down?
    5) Should I try to locate the root and de-root the ivy?
    6) Should I remove the tree with the ivy? I would love to keep the tree if there is any hope it will revive.

    I would appreciate any advice on these matters.
    Thank you in advance.
    Saleem
     

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  2. monkeylove

    monkeylove Well-Known Member

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    I would have them removed even if they were healthy. They will only grow to be a problem later on in such a confined space. Remove them and plant something that fits the space better now and in 10 years.
     
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  3. TCtreeswinger

    TCtreeswinger Well-Known Member

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    A little throwline work should have those trees down fast use treesaregood.org to find a certified arborist to do the work save money on clean up instead of a ladder and saw. Then plant something that won't swallow up the fence. I live in a similar area dealing with dead trees of a similar nature all the time, especially dead elms and soon to be ash (looks like volunteer elms).
     
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  4. adaycj

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    They are small trees, and there are easy ways to get rid of them reasonably quickly with the right equipment. I won't comment on the liability aspect, but doing the work yourself may expose you to risk that a licensed and insured pro can help you avoid. Are these the only trees you plan to cut? If so the cost of enough proper equipment to do the job will parallel the price for a pro to do the job right.

    I wouldn't play games with vinegar. There are lots of ways to kill ivy including chemicals. The easiest way is to cut it down and continue to cut any re-growth. I would pay to have it dealt with when the trees are cut down rather than mess with it now. In the past I have cut ivy at the root and the vine has died completely. I don't know if this is really the best practice to save a tree however.

    I agree with the other post. I'd cut them both down and replant more appropriate vegetation.
     
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  5. arborcareman

    arborcareman Active Member

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    Everyone who’s posted already definitely has the right idea-have a pro remove them and plant more worthy species of tree(s).
    I second the ‘treearegood.org site, You’ll find the right qualified Arborist there.
    Good Luck and congrats on the new home!


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  6. Saleem

    Saleem New Member

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    Everyone,
    Thank you so much for your help, time and effort.
    I will definitely hire a qualified arborist and will visit treesaregood.org.
     
  7. TCtreeswinger

    TCtreeswinger Well-Known Member

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    Remember to talk to and coordinate with your neighbor for a drop zone and clean up. Best of luck. Most universities extension sites have good references for planting in urban/poor soil/small areas and treesaregood.org has ideal instructions for planting.
     

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