Friction Hitch Questions

Discussion in 'Climber's Talk' started by Brocky, Sep 17, 2016.

  1. jaredtritz

    jaredtritz New Member

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    The hitch is a bit clearer here. Though I hesitate to admit this, I made a bad mistake last week and had this hitch, and my safety backup catch me. I keep this hitch tied in above all else (except sometimes my hand ascender) on a safety backup attachment. I finished work and was ready to switch to descent. I've been using a figure 8 repel device but didn't have it so grabbed a twist lock carabiner and clipped in a Hunter hitch. Unclipped my main attachment and leaned back to descend about 35 feet. As I did the munter managed to open the gate of the carabiner and unravel to a straight pass through and I was left gripping the line and picking up speed quickly on descent. It took about 6 feet for me to pull my left hand off the safety knot and push it up, and it caught me! I can see how this is/was an operator error, but share to encourage others who might save themselves from a fall, for any myriad of operator errors, using this or another hitch on a seperate backup safety chord.
     
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  2. Brocky

    Brocky Well-Known Member

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    Glad to hear you didn't panic and and were able to stop the descent. Things happen very quickly sometimes.
    Thanks for the pictures, very clear now how it's tied. I had a couple guesses how it was tied from your other picture, neither was like yours, maybe they will be added to the collection also, after trying them out.
    Do you have a name for it?
     
  3. jaredtritz

    jaredtritz New Member

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    Well, I think b/c I use it as a safety tail, and as such it can bail you out of a tough fall, calling it a "bail tail" would suffice and be reminding of it's purpose.
     
  4. Brocky

    Brocky Well-Known Member

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    Here is your hitch and three variations
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    I'm assuming you tested those variations?
    I probably get more excited about your hitch drawings than I should, but I do.
     
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    Brocky Well-Known Member

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    Yes, they worked for me,but should be tested by the user. Maybe should have added stopper knots for safety.
     
  7. jaredtritz

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    I tied these other three to see tonight, and I think I'm going to file them as "maybe knots" and "probably knots". They are interesting variants but I found them less desirable than the Blake's hitch and the bail tail variant. Thanks for sharing though! I may revisit them again... sometimes it takes playing around with a knot to find it's usefulness.
     

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