Epicord 9.3mm splice

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  1. CLIMBERJunkieee

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    Hey fellas! Been a while since I been on here. Had to dust the old account off anyways I was wondering what is the recommended splice for that fancy cordage they call epicord? I was ever fortunate and win some free e2es at TreeJam 2016 ! They are now just starting to wear out and I need to create some more. I'm sold on this stuff, it's really durable, however it costs. So I want to make sure I can splice it before I make a purchase. Thank you for any input.
     
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    Class I double braid instructions for an eye to eye (short bury), class II instructions for a single eye


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    Class I double braid instructions for an eye to eye (short bury), class II instructions for a single eye


    Reed Wortley
    CA# SO-6953A
    CTSP# 01739
     
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    Awesome. Thanks fellas.
     
  6. Brocky

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    I'm confused, is Epicord a double braid or is it cord dependent?
     
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    Class II double braid. Eye to eyes have sufficient breaking strength when spliced with Class I instructions used in a basket configuration. It has a blended cover of Technora and polyester and a mostly spectra core with a little bit of Technora in it.


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    Thanks Reed. Could you also do locked brummels for a double eye hitch cord?
     
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    Probably, technically you could but remember that Spectra has a pretty low melting point like Dyneema, so you want to be conscious of that...


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    It would probably be best to have covered eyes then naked in case a rope ran against them if going with the brummmels. That's a good point, thanks again.
     
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    What do you mean when you say "short" bury?
     
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    1/3 fid


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    Thanks!
     
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    I'm sure 1/3 fid is sufficient, but I'd just like to point out that teufelbergers instructions call for 2/3 fid bury. This is also what nick uses on the tree-u splicing series when doing his eye2eye in epicord

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    Nick doesn't climb so wouldn't see the benefit of a short bury.


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    Hahaha :lol:
     
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    So I was just looking thru tuefelbergers website and noticed their description of epicord states that it has a heat sensitive core and gives a warning not to expose the cord to temps greater than 70 celcius which really is not much it’s like 160 F. Cords like beeline say something like 900 degrees and this one is at like 160, anyone concerned by this? I haven’t seen this mentioned on any suppliers website before.

    https://www.teufelberger.com/en/hitch-cord-epicord.html
     
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    That pertains to storage temperatures. Most of these polymers will dry out and weaken if stored for long periods at fairly high temps. Like, don't leave it in the trunk of your car during the summer. Most will also re-absorb moisture if soaked in warm water for awhile, but for a prusik cord you probably don't want it to dry out in the first place. The fibers will handle much higher temperatures for short durations.
     
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    Thanks! I’ve been using this cord on and off since it came out and really like it so last thing I wanted right now was a reason not to use it
     
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    Yeah, I've got sewn E2E cords in 8mm, 9.3mm, and 10mm... can't say anything bad about the Epicord. Still prefer 10mm Ocean Polyester on some half-inch ropes, but the Epicord always works great on 24-strand doublebraids and kernmantles. Have had good luck with the 9mm ArbPro, too.
     

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