Had no idea. I just thought carrying handsaw made alot of sense. I'm gonna buy that standard one of these days, I'm probably doing all kinds of shit wrong!Cute reply...but...in the current Z133 climbers are required to have a handsaw when they're off the ground...just sayin'...
I could see it being required when climbing with a chainsaw, incase that gets stuck, but it's still not relevant to safety.Don't get me wrong, I know the usefulness of having a hand saw. It just doesn't seem like a safety factor to me, therefore should not be required by z133. But I am open to learning new things if someone can point out why it should be required other than for convenience.
The running out of gas thing I agree with. The reaction forces thing not so much. I think if you are doing something that causes a reaction force so great that you can't safely have a chainsaw in your hand, there is a better way to do it. But everybody's style is different. Everybody's comfortable is different. I'm not saying your wrong.I always think of that last back cut when you run out of gas. How far did you get thru the wood, maybe you can't push it over? Does your ground team need to come under a wobbly top that might get blown over by the wind to fill you up?
I know I have made plenty of cuts with a handsaw because I wanted to be safer than holding a powersaw when the reaction forces start.
You are right and I usually am fine holding the saw when things go ka-sproing. A lot of the times I switch to the handsaw to finish cuts b/c I want to hold on to the skinny thing I'm on or my rope or push or pull. We have a 2hands policy for chainsaw cuts and I am usually good at making myself follow it.The running out of gas thing I agree with. The reaction forces thing not so much. I think if you are doing something that causes a reaction force so great that you can't safely have a chainsaw in your hand, there is a better way to do it. But everybody's style is different. Everybody's comfortable is different. I'm not saying your wrong.
Yes Tom, I have, and have read Z133. I don't see any of these reasons as enough, personally, to clog up space on my harness or figure out some clumsy way to attach it over my spurs when I'm doing a take down. I won't get into the reasons I think so. If you want to carry a handsaw on your cat rescues and big removals, feel free. It's none of my business, nor do I care really. The guy asked how to carry his handsaw and I replied. Feel free to lecture others.are you familiar with the Z133? @Ent Lots more than just PPE. It has to do with safe work practices.
I just re-read my comment and see that I should edit... what I should have written is:
...was A reason...not the reason
There have already been a few reasons to have a handsaw shared in this thread.
I can't see any good reason not to have a handsaw all of the time...mine goes with me on cat rescues.