Anyone going to the Big Tree Pro’s Inc course in Knoxville?

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  1. deevo

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    I was thinking of going as I need to get certified. I find it disappointing that Isa evidently doesn't want people to get educated, because I don't belong to Isa they want to charge me $500 more, cheaper for me to go to Florida with crane tech and get certified. Real shame as I would rather hang with tree guys.
     
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    Wow thats steep. Really steep. I'm taking the NCCCO test at a computer based test site in december for $205 and then the practical in WV for $600. There is a place in PA that does practical and written testing and the practical is only $375 The place in PA is almost in canada. Too far to drive for me so i'll pay the extra cash for a closer test site. Paul the one in WV is only 3 hours from you. You don't have to take a course to get certified. Most people think you have to pay out the butt to get certified. So not the case especially if you've been doing tree work with a crane forever.
     
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    Steve you know I'm a dick, just hate all the bs that is forced down our throats. Join this join that pay for this etc . Doesn't make us any safer just less money .
    When in December is the comp test? Might be a bit soon for me to read up again but definitely attractive.
    As you know I like to share as much with people as I can and don't charge for it
     
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    Kone crane is another training option. They are located in Milwaukee WI. We use them often and have liked the way they conduct themselves. Another option is crane institute in Florida. I️ also am a certified crane instructor.
     
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    Paul they schedule at your convenience. I’m the only guy Testing that day. You can do the practical first or second. You have 12 months to complete whatever you decide to do second. I take the written test dec 2 and the practical dec 8. Look at the computer based testing centers. It’s on the NCCCOA website. I’m taking the written on a Saturday morning. Super convenient. Call Charles or Taylor at Crane Edge Inc. E4D84828-E515-4006-B271-CDF375474B56.png
     
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    If you can get a test on dec 8 I can pick you up on my way. I’m coming through Cville to get there. I’ll leave my house around 430 am and get to you around 730.
     
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    sweet, Ill call them tomorrow and hopefully can ride up with you, the practical is a cake walk imo
     
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    I'm scheduled for 12:00 or so
     
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    Steve Im GTG on the 8th with you, Ill bring the beer!!
     
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    Cool
    I’ll be in touch
     
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    I have a couple comments regarding this topic. I feel it is inaccurate to say ISA or TCIA don't want you to be educated because they cost money. It costs money to run these organizations. If they are offering these trainings they have used time and resources which cost money. To join isa to save $500 sounds like a sound business decision. Both organizations offer large amounts of educational resources including publications and seminars.


    As far as NCCO and other crane training organizations they are good but don't offer much in terms of tree work. I have several NCCO certifications and I'm not impressed. They give enough info to pass a test and little operational training.
    ,Although I'm not completely familiar with Sims and his training I have talked briefly with him. This training is specific to trees and cranes. There are others like Crane Man Inc who also do tree specific training.
    I think it is important for tree companies with cranes to get different traaining. Training from comprehensive companies dealing mostly with construction is great in understanding cranes but tree related crane training should also be done..
    TCIA also has a new Crane Operator Specialist program. I will be doing this with my company and another local company this winter.
     
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    So I rode up with Steve yesterday and took the practical exam. What a joke, literally my 12 year old son could pass it.

    My biggest take away from the experience is Steve has a nice ass pickup, he really has ruined me! I was totally happy with my 97 dodge 12 valve with a stick till I drove it!
     
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    Ha, ha. It's paid for. Thats the absolute best thing about it!! It was basically a hoop to jump through(test). Hopefully my insurance rates will drop! Oh yeah Paul is a good driver!! I learned that too.
     
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    Guys, I'm sorry I didn't see this post sooner, but I am not scheduled to be at this event. I had originally told Sims that I would come for a day and do a demo IF TCIA supported the event. He failed to gain their support which in turn won't allow me to get the support of STIHL. I have no information besides this. I hope it goes well for anyone that is signed up.
     
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    Here's to hoping ! I'll keep everyone posted ! I was really hoping to crack some New Jersey Devils jokes and bust ya up on them Mark! Oh well next time, they are having a great season though!
    Devon
     
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    You can do that right here
     
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    So now after trying to charge me $500 more because I wasn't a TCIA member the TCIA won't support the event so Stihl won't either. Crazy how our industries politics prohibit the free exchange of information. I would be very disappointed if I were you Mark . Shame on TCIA and Stihl both
     
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    Yeah an individual who doesn't own a company can't join...I dont get it but there must be some reasoning there somewhere
     
  20. Mark Chisholm

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    I can't speak to how the organizations work. The issue really isn't them in regards to this event. There's more to it than that. It's hard to stick your neck out for people if you don' have a history to use as credibility. A group like tcia can add that. If they (or any other proven group) doesn't support an event it becomes very risky for someone like myself. I've been burned from this early on and will not do that again. I hope this makes sense.
     

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