2016 srtwp redirects

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  1. Jeff_Cochran

    Jeff_Cochran Well-Known Member

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    lets see what you got buzzards. i saw a post on "i love srt" that a guy had on loop a ring and something else and said that is all he ever needed for redirects. I got a couple simple ones i have been playing with. I will post pics soon
     
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    Variation of the MultiSling Redirect (not sure who to credit for it, but not my invention)

    A night of My Imori wouldn't fit through the ring on the MS, so I girth a large DMM anchor ring and a ultra O into a loop runner. Bight goes through the ring, revolver into the bight, tie tail of line onto revolver for retrieval. It retrieves like a dream and it's quick and easy to setup. Love it.
     
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    This is what I'm using 95% of the time. If I leave myself along ponytail, there's nothin to chase. Otherwise, it's a sling on a biner.
    Am I really just missing the boat on te retrievable redirect? I've messed with it some and when it goes poorly, you're totally sunk. Definitely there are a few situs where it would be the bee's, but in general it seems to me to be a hassle. KISS
     
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    Dude I totally get where you're coming from with keeping it simple
    I guess some ppl don't like having to feed my entire tail through a crotch. Gets old quick
     
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    Another problem with natural redis - if you redirect enough times the friction can be tough while trying to pull your rope out
    Even more so with a canopy anchor


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    A non-retrievable mechanical redirect is quick to put in and easy to go back to and take out when you're done. I'm missing the appeal of the retrievable, how much time does it save in your day, maybe 2-5 minutes? I don't mind if someone comes up with a super cool retrievable that doesn't increase rope management woes (dragging a release tail along with you or worrying about parts hanging up), haven't seen it yet.
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    Are you talking about retrievables or any mechanical redirect?
     
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    Spot on Jon.
     
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    Wyatt, are you using more tail than needed?
     
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    Let's all just be honest.
    We like f***ing around with rings and pulleys and slings and stuff because it's fun. Tinkering is fun. Inventing new redirects is fun. Natural redirects are easier and honestly faster. But a creative person (with the drive to invent, and create, and test, and experiment) cannot reinvent or improve upon the a branch union.

    Get what I'm saying? I'm not arguing that retreivable redis are better or that they are neccessary.
    Personally, I want to tinker. Like a mad scientist. Mwhahaha.
     
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    What do you mean?
    On the fisherman's knot/D. Overhand?
     
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    I like to get the job done.
     
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    Do you set your line with just enough tail to hit the ground?
     
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    Definitely,I hear you on the tinkering Wyatt, I've done more than my fair share.
     
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    This was in the shop
    It's meant to be retrievable from in the tree and the ground
    So yes, if you want to retrieve from the ground, you need enough tail to for you to reach the ground.
    I'm sorry did I miss something I feel like I'm missing something
     
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    The reason I asked is that you said it's a hassle to put your tail through nc redirects.

    One of my favorite things about srt in general is that you can set your line so that you have the minimum tail needed for the climb. Make sense?
     
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    This is a new idea to me, the minimal tail thing.
    A lightbulb just kind came on in my head: "having a pile of rope to manage in a tree sucks". I like the idea of having less tail to screw around with

    So you anchor your line with just enough tail to reach the ground? What happens if you want to descend to the ground from a natural redirect? Do you have to climb back through it so you have enough tail to get back to the ground?

    I suppose you could just anchor your rope with enough to the reach the ground plus X amount of feet to accommodate the added redirect. But that requires the foresight to recognize the need for it before you leave the ground.

    Am I getting it or am not getting it
     
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    Exactly. Guesstimate how much you will need if you're going to leave some natural redirects during the climb. Other than that, just hang it to the ground.
     
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    Dude never thought of it that way
    I appreciate the insight thank you Levi
     
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    No problem Wyatt.
     

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